Argument can be made that they're "money" under the tax code, since case law brings up "circulating" as a critical distinction between "money" and "property other than money." I myself don't think the parsing, which is clearly going on in Sec 170, absolutely contemplates all types of property, especially in light of the U.S. Government getting back into the gold minting business. One-Time Checkup with a Financial Advisor, personal property that isnt considered real property, Compare Up to 3 Financial Advisors Near You. OK. Now Fogel states categorically that the people who say the PLR would have been reversed are just repeating what someone else told them and in actuality have no direct knowledge. Please remove any contact information or personal data from your feedback. The more information one can obtain regarding an issue, the better. Tangible personal property includes fixtures attached to real estate if . Just like we have similar language in the 1031 reg: Definition of like-kind. As used in section 1031(a), the words like kind have reference to the nature or character of the property and not to its grade or quality. 2. Animal shelters or rescues may be a good choice. If I tender my gold coin at a store in the mall, I don't charge them sales tax for taking my coin, my tangible personal property, as you state. (301) 441-2420. ? Conventionally, for something to be considered tangible property, it is (in the words of an accepted legal dictionary): "property that has a physical form and substance and is not intangible. We go by face value. Ok, Dennis. Shall we start a thread about *Bitcoin?*. Rul. And, I've already told you what I think about your gift and estate tax references. Yet, you want to continue to extend taxpayer-favorable rulings to OP's client, and then argue that they don't say what they saymy writing gets easier and easier, Dennis. But, as I then admitted, even though taxpayer favorable - that carve out in 408(m) - I wouldn't bet the farm on it. As such, applying a strict "personal property" label to something like a gold coin might not be appropriate. SmartAsset Advisors, LLC ("SmartAsset"), a wholly owned subsidiary of Financial Insight Technology, is registered with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission as an investment adviser. Bear in mind the law relating to treatment of coins as tangible personal property has application outside of 170. End of story. But 170 falls short in the "personal property" arena. The Regan era coins are collectibles. Then you are categorically calling the people who make this assertion liars? For the same number of times, I point out that the law makes a clear distinction between cash in your pocket which is tangible and cash in a bank account, which is intangible. First, here is what you wrote: Rev. Therefore, sales of such coins for delivery in Massachusetts are subject to the Massachusetts sales or use tax. They are probably the bullion coins authorized by Reagan. And a judge might just be the one to do it. Different rules depending on the situation. The gold and silver coins clearly are tangible property, in that they can be felt or touched. Likewise, I wouldn't bet the farm on your "out of context" estate tax rulings, as I mentioned above. Circulating, from what I can tell, even though the word has never been adequately defined. So long as it's in your pocket it's a collectible. I'm just thinking that something's gotta give somewhere to align all of this. You want to take the opposite position, but you have nothing but hearsay to rely upon. The central question here is whether American Eagle gold bullion coins, having no numismatic value, donated to a charity, are tangible personal property for purposes of IRC 170(e)(1)(B) that limits the charitable contribution deduction to the donors cost basis. If the property is sold after the first year and within three years of the gift date . Thank you everyone for all the input. Foreign currency is not "money". The offers that appear in this table are from partnerships from which Investopedia receives compensation. With the gold market perhaps beyond its peak and ever volatile, some of these donors may be ready to put the value of their gold to good use by making a charitable gift. Apply it if you wantbut it's about "rare coins" that have "acquired value as collector's items." Although you have to report any gain on the sale of personal-use property . The sales and use taxes are imposed with respect to sales of tangible personal property (G.L. In order for value to rise and fall, there must be some other benchmark. Investopedia does not include all offers available in the marketplace. Hmmmm. Is a dollar, or a penny or a dimeproperty? Goodman Law | Attorney Advertising, 14 Ridgedale Avenue, Suite 254, Cedar Knolls, NJ 07927 | Phone: 973.567.3849, Legal Blog For Elder Law and Estate Planning In New Jersey, Estate Planning Questions About Tangible Personal Property, Elder Law From an Estate Planning Perspective, The Difference Between Executors, Trustees, and Guardians, Avoiding the Pitfalls of Trust and Estate Administration, Divorced Parents with Special Needs Children, Estate Lawyer Planning for Solo Boomers, Estate Planning: Telling your Children What Youre Planning and Why. Not sure how. It includes all personal property that isn't considered real property or. What about a dollar bill, or a penny or a dime? The Comptroller treats the sale of software, canned or custom, as the taxable sale of tangible . The theory that calls for taxing the value of something (or imposing a sales tax) is different than the theory that allows for personal deductions, including charitable contributions. From the RR: Obviously, if one side of a 1031 involves money, it would be cash consideration or boot. The ability to document ownership and origination of ivory heirlooms may be extremely important to provide to the executor of ones estate and to the beneficiaries. Chris already brought this up, more or less, but I ask: What if Chris paid 15 cents for the aforementioned dime? Personal-use property. It's pretty well settled that foreign currency is treated as personal property under the tax code. So, that's all I know. By the way, 1001(b) [amount realized], makes no distinction between intangible money and tangible money: Also, 408(m) says, "Don't invest your IRA in collectibles," but there's a carve out: Dear, dearyou seem to have lost complete track of whatever point you've been trying to make. If you want to see the fallacy of "more akin to appreciated stock" check out the treatment of a donation of units in a publicly traded ETF holding gold bullion. If you sell the timber, the sale is treated as a capital gain and not ordinary income. Tangible personal property is the opposite of real property, in a sense, as real property is immovable. As tax professionals, we are entitled to rely on a private letter ruling as substantial authority. Since the gain in all of these items when sold is taxed at the rate applicable to tangible personal property (up to 28%), you may wonder why there would be any doubt about their deductibility. Tangible Personal Property (TPP) means all goods, chattels, and other articles of value (excluding some vehicular items) capable of manual possession and whose chief value is intrinsic to the article itself. (2) Tangible personal property. contact the Massachusetts Department of Revenue. The largest gold ETF owns gold bullion worth about $70 billion. Shares in a specific gold mining company or in an ETF that invests in them are considered securities for tax purposes, like shares in any publicly-traded company. But then, when you agreed with Fogel you didn't seem to notice that he dismissed all of your positions as irrelevant. The asset appraiser will assess the current condition of the assets, including the degree of obsolescence and level of wear and tear. You can't extend the logic b/c the RR logic applies to the specific coins involved in the ruling. 22 E-books are also taxable. Other considerations In lieu of establishing a pet trust, a gift of the pet together with cash may be made to an individual who promises to accept care of the pet as a condition for receiving the cash gift. Regardless, sale through a reputable dealer will also need to be arranged. And, the stuff in 31 USC 5112 probably includes the coins described by the OP. Gold coins and gold bullion are considered collectibles for tax purposes. Sounds like you should ask the charity to clarify exactly how the gift should be properly reported on a tax return. They would be valued as what they could have been sold for to a coin dealer. School Dist., 2008 WL 4441957 (5th Cir. (Note that gain reported under the four-tier system for taxing unitrust payments will be taxed at 28% until all gain attributable to the bullion has been distributed). . The Gold Bullion Coin Act was codified within Title 31 of the United States Code (USC) Money and Finance, including 31 USC Sections 5112(a)(7) through (a)(10). We have a basis of 12 cents and a value of 15 cents. Or would I need to go ahead and spell out every single item in the will itself, updating the will every year or two? Cryptocurrency is not "tangible property" because it cannot be touched; instead, it exists . Definitions. Go find a charity that will take your position. The article involved realization only and took no position on anything. Livestock & Horses Arrangements need to be made for the proper care and management of these animals to take effect immediately upon death. Again, not that it matters. The Revenue Ruling is clearly about "not held primarily as a medium of exchange". Ways to Invest in Gold Contributions of gold mining stock or shares in an ETF that invests in gold mines are treated the same way as any contribution of stock: if held more than one year, the donors charitable deduction will be based on the fair market value of the stock on the day of donation; if held one year or less it will be based on the donors cost basis in the stock. It makes me think of Sec 121 and the games that used to be played wherein taxpayer would exchange, say, investment land, for a rental property, then later convert the rental into a primary residence, and then sell the primary residence tax free under Sec 121. But then again, maybe the IRS is re-thinking its position here, and its position in the subsequent PLR, as a few places have noted. In the case of a disabled beneficiary, it may be best to exclude the individual from receiving the items altogether. McNamee Hosea (1) The following shall be exempt from taxation under the provisions of part 1 of this article: (a) Any right to the continuous possession or use for three years or less of any article of tangible personal property under a lease or contract, if the lessor has paid to the state of Colorado a sales or use tax on such tangible personal property upon its acquisition. To avoid any confusion as to what a person considers to be the tangible personal property a Will should include its own definition of that term and specifically carve out of that definition any items that the person may want to leave specifically to one or more persons, or perhaps fall in the typically larger rest and residue provision of the Will. Maybe I would label it: "Property other than money that is not tangible personalty for purposes of Section 170 of the Code." 20.2104-1(a)(2)has always included the contents of a safety deposit box. The tax base for the retail classification is the gross proceeds of sales or gross income derived from the business. And Dennis might actually win this onebut that won't stop me from arguing. Let's say I hold a stock that I've held over a year. Should coin collection be ''treated'' as cash and liquidated or should it go to Person A as personal property? South African Krugerrand gold coins are one of the best known types of gold bullion coins. 31 USC 5103 specifically states that foreign coins are not considered legal tender in the U.S. Maybe they've changed their mind. Planning for Tangible Personal Property from the Mundane to the Unique, trusts for the benefit of younger or disabled persons. "However, the IRS apparently was ready to reverse its position in a later PLR that was withdrawn because the taxpayer died. I can't say I don't care for them, I just don't find them to be relevant in the income tax areaalthough the income tax issue all started, pretty much, with an estate tax ruling (RR 78-360), wherein the circulation issue was first raised. The IRS concluded that South African Krugerrand gold bullion coins were not personal property for purposes of IRC 170(a)(3). Your "check" is twenty times the size of my coin. Tangible personal property (TPP) comprises property that can be moved or touched, and commonly includes items such as business equipment, furniture, and automobiles. Based on the foregoing, it is ruled that sales of gold coins, such as Krugerrands and Maple Leafs, the value of which depends upon their gold content, are sales of tangible personal property rather than exchanges of currency. Examples of tangible physical property include automobiles, furniture, jewelry, computers, machinery, art objects, rugs, dishes, curtains, household appliances and tools. What if Mr. Franklin were to fund a 5% charitable remainder unitrust with his bullion rather than give it outright or in exchange for a gift annuity. A coin evidences everything you could buy. I didn't mean to cause/create any rifts! The law also (in all cited cases) makes a clear distinction between currency value and market value. The amount directed into trust should be reasonable and a court may assume jurisdiction over the trust and reduce the amount if considered to be unreasonable. That's why I like the "akin to an appreciated stock" argument better. This charity gives out tax advice, or something like that. (Might also want to try paying your local property taxes with onesee how much credit they'll give youor, just ask Mr. Klein (Crummey vs. Klein Indep. It doesn't really make a whole lot of sense why a stock gets favorable charitable treatment, but a U.S. legal tender gold coin wouldn't. Reg. The value of tangible personal property may range from very nominal value e.g., old pots and pans to considerable value, for example, art, stamps and coins, gold bullion and gold and silver bars. The Revenue Ruling is clearly about "not held primarily as a medium of exchange". A statement by someone who authored an article? I'd also be fine treating these coins like stock. Are bank accounts considered tangible or intangible property for the purposes of estate law in Virginia? Tangible assets are physical and measurable assets that are used in a company's operations. So are ETFs that invest in gold bullion. I have the PLR to rely upon. They are a lot of someone's opinion. While publicly-traded securities have fared poorly over the last decade, the skyrocketing demand for gold in the face of a static supply has caused gold prices to rise dramatically. Given the potential for error, its best to consult with an attorney. Tangible personal property is anything other than real property or intangible personal property which includes items such as patents, copyrights, stocks, and the goodwill value of a business. Tangible personal property tax is paid by a landlord or company to its local government, but landlords or company owners can claim a deduction on federal income tax returns. The Will may also provide for equalizing distributions of cash from the estate so that if one beneficiary receives the decedents expensive jewelry or a vehicle, the other beneficiaries could receive cash from the estate so that each beneficiary inherits equally. I fail to see the logic in assuming the language "coins not held primarily as a medium of exchange" has relevance only to rare coins when that same language is widely used to apply to all precious metal coins. It can be valued just as easily, you just weigh it instead of looking it up on a stock chart. If that is not a practical option, registered U.S. Mail is commonly used (FedEx and UPS will not ship gold). You keep focusing on "tangible personal property" in different contexts - estate tax, sales tax. I'm also smart enough to know that the IRS might very well take your position on the matter, with respect to newly minted American Gold Eagles. For charitable purposes, if treated as "money," the deduction would be 10 cents. Note the "like kind" language in the referenced letter from the charity. R.C. Tangible personal property includes equipment, supplies, and any other property (including information technology systems) other than that is defined as an intangible property. A growing number of states have enacted laws permitting pet trusts. I don't think existing (authoritative) guidance adequately address the gold coin. a) Held over one year. In most places there is a sales tax added to the purchase of your 12 cent dime. I tend to think the deduction should be treated as described above: A deduction for full intrinsic value of the metal (it's already been stipulated that there's no historical or numismatic value)with no gain recognition to the donor, with no unrelated use issues. All investing involves risk, including loss of principal. Your example didn't wake me up. Often, a Will will leave all such tangibles to a spouse or to children. 3)Is the donation still reported in Section B of the 8283 and does the client still need an appraisal and the 8283 signed by the appraiser, or is it considered a cash donation? We don't care what 1031 says. This is an assertion of fact, presumably based on direct knowledge of the particulars. The former doesn't give rise to a recognition event when you use it to buy something, for example. Thus they appear to be USC Title 37 5112(a)(7) coins. And the term is used in different ways in the numismatist world. Assume that the trustee is able to sell the bullion a few days later. Tangible personal property is generally defined as personal property that can be touched. So are ETFs that invest in gold bullion. Liza is also the author of Busy Family's Guide to Estate Planning: 10 Steps to Peace of Mind. And that is the position of every state that imposes a sales tax. You want your 12 cent dime to be money, put it in an account and add 10 cents to your balance. As a result, you may end up with a loss. (I've already said this). Often, a Will will leave all such tangibles to a spouse or to children. This isn't my article, but here's some stuff on it: Thanks, Chris. GCM 33791 was issued in 1968, before the basis limitation rule of IRC 170(e)(3)(B) was enacted in the Tax Reform Act of 1969 (P.L. For large amounts of gold, other delivery options will need to be explored, such as delivery directly to a dealer. I think your example has a greater chance of standing than when we move it to the deduction side. However, certain types require special attention because of laws regulating their ownership, registration, and possession: Firearms Alcohol Ivory, furs, and other artifacts made from endangered species According to the IRS, tangible personal property is any sort of property that can be touched or moved. For purpose of 2001. SmartAssets services are limited to referring users to third party advisers registered or chartered as fiduciaries ("Adviser(s)") with a regulatory body in the United States that have elected to participate in our matching platform based on information gathered from users through our online questionnaire. Trying to apply realization concepts and pre-dated Regs to something as novel as a newly minted U.S. gold coin, a new asset class, might not be suitable. So, not sure why you think the charity is taking your position. People can hold this type of property and they can also see it. ii. Based on the foregoing, it is ruled that sales of gold coins, such as Krugerrands and Maple Leafs, the value of which depends upon their gold content, are sales of tangible personal property rather than exchanges of currency. The fact is, however, the courts have repeatedly held that these coins are "property other than money. the gold watch goes to her daughter and the stamp collection goes to her son. Property owners who lease or rent tangible personal property must also file this return for tax purposes. 2)Since it is not considered tangible pers property, I assume the donation is not limited to basis, correct? So far you have presented nothing. They are still tangible personal property. Typical items include clothing, jewelry, art, musical instruments, writings, furnishings and other household goods. In comparison to intangible personal property, tangible property can be touched. Cambridge, MA 02138 The amount realized from the sale or other disposition of property shall be the sum of any money received plus the fair market value of the property (other than money) received. Collectibles are taxed as capital gains or losses similar to stocks and bonds but with one very important exception. 5739.01(DDD) and O.A.C. Even a dime gets included in one's estate, based on it's value. "Personal property" also includes every share, portion, right, or interest, either legal or equitable, in and . Additionally, certain types of TPP may be taxed at a different rate than other types, so there is no clear process across the board. If we treat as regular personalty, we have the related use problem. They have value only because of their gold content. Own gold coins. Further, coins bear similarities to money and also to property other than money. Disclaimer -- Legal information is not legal advice. Precious metals can be bought in coins or bars and are evaluated based on their weight. On the realization side, the coins are treated as "property other than money." In effect, there is a three year holding period for tangible personal property valued over $5,000 that is claimed to be used for a related use. The property type doesn't matter. Checklist for Personal and Tax Documents After a Natural Disaster. The "gold masters" allowed the corporate mainframe to communicate directly with the store computers. These are items that you own, but that dont have a title document (like a deed, or a pink slip). Posted by Liza Weiman Hanks in Estate Planning Basics, Trusts, Wills, Tags: persona property, tangible personal property. The calculation of your tangible personal property (TPP) is primarily used for taxation purposes. Own shares in a gold mining company or in an Exchange-Traded Fund (ETF) that invests in gold mining companies. Best Review Site for Digital Cameras. Accordingly, it may be best to specify that these types of assets will be sold or provide that a beneficiary may have the option to use his or her part of the estate to buy the asset from the estate at its appraised value. The twisting reflects reality. But that's only because the cases didn't need to. Under that rule, a sale of canned software was considered to be a sale of tangible personal property, as is a sale of prewritten computer software as defined in new R.C. Comparison to Non-Tangible Assets, What Is Bonus Depreciation? We'd like to know about Section 170. Contact us today or call862.307.8719. If the property is sold in the first year, the charitable deduction is reduced to basis. . gold, silver, or numismatic coins of any value; iii. This is clear. You have seriously never heard of non-correlated investments? Rev. The term includes articles even if held for investment purposes and encompasses tangible property . The value of tangible personal property may range from very nominal value e.g., old pots and pans to considerable value, for example, art, stamps and coins, gold bullion and gold and silver bars. If the donor lives nearby, he or she could deliver it in person. The Regan era coins are tangible personal property that can included in the Estate of a Non-Resident Alien. I dont think youre going to find any relevant guidance on this issue other than the PLR. c) Carries no numismatic value.". SmartAsset does not review the ongoing performance of any Adviser, participate in the management of any users account by an Adviser or provide advice regarding specific investments. Give me a cite that speaks specifically to U.S. gold coins minted under the Reagan act. Because (1) they're more like stock held for long term appreciation than they are like a painting [i.e. If the company or landlord believes the letter is not applicable, the letter may be returned to the office with another letter explaining why taxes on tangible personal property does not apply to the business. No other relevant details. He even wrote an article on it about a year ago, give or take. Consider property such as furniture, machinery, cell phones, computers, and collectibles which can be felt compared to intangibles such as patents, copyrights, and non-compete agreements that cannot be seen or touched. And somehow you figure 170 is going to be different? Dennis points are more than well taken. The examples below illustrate a gift of gold bullion, but apply equally to a gift of gold coins (taking the position that gold coins are tangible personal property) and shares of ETFs invested in gold bullion. and substantial capital gains to go with them. Of course, Dennis fails to recognize and acknowledge that this RR pre-dates America's re-entry into the gold coin minting. The term tangible personal property is generally understood to mean items that can be felt or touched. We refinanced. In OP's case, I think we fail the test b/c coins will be immediately sold. When boats or cars are still subject to a lien, these items will need to be sold in order for the title to be transferred out of the decedents name. It smells bad, so the courts make up a test to deny the taxpayer. That what they wrote contemplated a very specific type of "property" that didn't exist when Congressional intent was manifested, when the law was written and when the Regs were written. "Tangible personal property" is defined in General Laws Chapter 64H, Section 1(15) as, "personal property of any nature consisting of any produce, goods, wares, merchandise and commodities whatsoever, brought into, produced, manufactured or being within the commonwealth, but shall not include rights and credits, insurance policies, bills of exchange, stocks and bonds and similar evidences of indebtedness or ownership.". Even though an ETF share is just paper (or more likely just bytes), it represents ownership of the metal itself and thats enough to make it a collectible for tax purposes. 23. Yeah, me too. States have similar restrictions and some firearms that may not be covered or restricted by federal law, may be covered by state law. The existence of a fiduciary duty does not prevent the rise of potential conflicts of interest. Any new business-owning tangible property on January 1must file an initial tax return on the property. These assets can be held by both individuals and corporations. In addition, the position described above is inconsistent with the reality that when sold the gain in Krugerrands (and other gold coins), gold bullion, and shares in ETFs that invest in gold bullion is taxed as if they are tangible personal property. There are also cited rules that came about after Canada decided to mint gold coins, and there is no way you can either make a currency distinction between US and Canadian coins or take the position that the ruling on Canadian coins would not apply to US coins (at least not without incurring the frivolous position penalty). If it was, it would have said, "The taxpayer did not hold the coins as a medium of exchange. Thought must also be given to whether the packing, shipping and transportation of items should be an expense of the estate or borne by the individual beneficiaries. the deduction is not limited to face value)? For example, is a collection of gold Krugerrand coins considered cash ortangible personal property? This shouldnt be an issue for gold bullion, which is readily marketable, except perhaps when funding occurs at the very end of the year). Liza is an attorney who specializes in estate planning for families of all ages. Alcohol The transfer of valuable wine collections or other alcohol is governed by state law and may require a license. Finding a qualified financial advisor doesnt have to be hard. Bonus depreciation is a tax break that allows businesses to immediately deduct a large percentage, currently 100%, of the purchase price of eligible assets. Since the value of the coins is more than $5,000 and the donation is not based on the coins face amount but rather their precious metal value, the client must get a qualified appraisal. Julia Kagan is a financial/consumer journalist and senior editor, personal finance, of Investopedia. Period." Typical items include clothing, jewelry, art, musical instruments, writings, furnishings and other household goods. Conversely, if the chandelier is to remain attached to the real property . (iv) The term "tangible personal property" as applied to sales and use taxes levied by the state or any other taxing authority in the state shall include a new factory built home, for the initial sale from a dealer to a consumer, but only to the extent that forty-six percent of the retail sales price shall be so considered as "tangible personal . These personal and business taxes are assessed on certain tangible personal property items, depending on where you live and what you own. I think everyone but Kenefick can hear the laughter. 2 If the chandelier is to be severed from the property when the gift becomes complete, it is tangible personal property. Tangible personal property in the pour over will and trust is left to 4 adul . 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